Re: BUILD and how to create a subclass object when creating a parent

Excerpts from Arjan Widlak - United Knowledge's message of 2018-04-25 22:41:52 +0200:
> Hi Karen,
> 
> Thank you for your reply. Sorry if it's not clear, let me try again with 
> a more concrete example.
> 
> I have a class called Asset, with subclasses like so:
> 
> Asset
> Asset::Container
> Asset::Container::KDU
> 
> Assets are objects to be displayed, Containers are Assets, but can 
> contain other Assets and Knowledge Delivery Units are a special kind of 
> containers.
> 
> I have a similar group of classes with subclasses like so:
> 
> Response
> Response::Container

Container idea is generally a list (a data structured to hold the type
you are holding). Anything different than that is just simply confusing
and should be avoided.

> 
> A Response is some response on an Asset by a user. The 
> Response::Container subclass sees if all Assets in a Container have 
> received a Response. It's like a summary of it's parent class.
> 
> Now the problem. If I create a Response, I might like to create a 
> Response::Container instance as well. If the Response I am about to 

Why not simple add the Response to the container ?
my $r = Response->new;
$container->add($r);

> create is the last Response needed for all Assets in the Container to 
> have received a Response, than I would like to create a 
> Response::Container subclass instance.

Makes no sense.

> 
> So creation of an instance of a subclass - Response::Container - is only 
> dependent on the creation of the parent class - Response. Therefore it 
> seems like a good design choice to couple this to the create method of 
> Response. (Where the create method does new, update the database, and 
> new_by_id, to re-instantiate from the database.)

Again, you don't create a new instance for container otherwise is not
containing more then one item inside.

> 
> How does the Moose framework envision such a case? I expected BUILD to 
> be the answer. It causes a deep recursion, so it's definitely not, as is 
> well documented. Around also causes a deep recursion by default if one 
> does this, that can be avoided though by creating an empty subroutine in 
> the subclass. Quite error prone, so not the obvious choice.
> 
> Since many of the ideas in Moose - Roles, Method modifiers, etc. - are 
> design ideas, I thought there is probably a view on cases like this. 
> However I cannot find the obvious way to to couple the creation of a 
> subclass to the creation of a parent class in Moose. How would one be 
> expected to do this in Moose?
> 
> Kind regards,
> Arjan.

Probably you should try another design. A simple one

-- 
Marco Arthur @ https://optdyn.com

• BUILD and how to create a subclass object when creating a parent by Arjan Widlak - United Knowledge
• Re: BUILD and how to create a subclass object when creating a parent by Karen Etheridge
• Re: BUILD and how to create a subclass object when creating a parent by Arjan Widlak - United Knowledge
• Re: BUILD and how to create a subclass object when creating a parent by Arjan Widlak - United Knowledge
• Re: BUILD and how to create a subclass object when creating a parent by Marco Silva
• Re: BUILD and how to create a subclass object when creating a parent by Arjan Widlak - United Knowledge
• Re: BUILD and how to create a subclass object when creating a parent by Chris Prather
• Re: BUILD and how to create a subclass object when creating a parent by Thomas Klausner
• Re: BUILD and how to create a subclass object when creating a parent by Arjan Widlak - United Knowledge